e-Waste with expiry date being sold at absurdly high prices for what its worth.

It was rumored that RX 9600 XT will be announced in May 18 and just a day latter after that rumor, Nvidia announces May 18 for the RTX 5060. It's funny. Then again many don't expect AMD to release RX 9060 XT in that day, only announce it, as they did with RX 9070s where we got the cards months later.

john_It was rumored that RX 9600 XT will be announced in May 18 and just a day latter after that rumor, Nvidia announces May 18 for the RTX 5060. It's funny. Then again many don't expect AMD to release RX 9060 XT in that day, only announce it, as they did with RX 9070s where we got the cards months later.

Yet still worth a wait for RX 9060 XT. Yes, RX 9070 XT took a while to get out to people, but boy it's a fine card. Don't rush to buy ANY of the RTX 5060 models now. Not vanilla and not the Ti. Wait for AMD's 9060 models and then decide.

RejZoRYet still worth a wait for RX 9060 XT. Yes, RX 9070 XT took a while to get out to people, but boy it's a fine card. Don't rush to buy ANY of the RTX 5060 models now. Not vanilla and not the Ti. Wait for AMD's 9060 models and then decide.

9070 is a fine card for someone who wants an AMD card and at the MSRP prices. I wonder if it really offers something more than the Nvidia models to someone who is going to chose without having any preference to any of those two brands. Yes, 5070 is made to not last, with those 12GBs of VRAM, but yet I wonder if AMD is offering something more, or if they just leveled the field. And they are still behind in RT, but at least much closer than before. 7000 was a waste.

That being said 9060s are probably going to be somewhat worst performers than Nvidia 5060 models and worst in RT. So they need to offer those at much lower prices. They will hit the jackpot if these new cards come at 7060/XT MSRPs. If they are closer to 5060 prices, AMD will manage to spoil all the positive press they got from the 9070s.

I am waiting for 9060s obviously because I also have a 4K TV with FreeSync Premium that I don't know if it will be usable with an Nvidia card and G-Sync compatible.

john_9070 is a fine card for someone who wants an AMD card and at the MSRP prices. I wonder if it really offers something more than the Nvidia models to someone who is going to chose without having any preference to any of those two brands. Yes, 5070 is made to not last, with those 12GBs of VRAM, but yet I wonder if AMD is offering something more, or if they just leveled the field. And they are still behind in RT, but at least much closer than before. 7000 was a waste.

That being said 9060s are probably going to be somewhat worst performers than Nvidia 5060 models and worst in RT. So they need to offer those at much lower prices. They will hit the jackpot if these new cards come at 7060/XT MSRPs. If they are closer to 5060 prices, AMD will manage to spoil all the positive press they got from the 9070s.

I am waiting for 9060s obviously because I also have a 4K TV with FreeSync Premium that I don't know if it will be usable with an Nvidia card and G-Sync compatible.

NVIDIA being an absolute software shitshow for months now, the fact that NVIDIA App is still an absolute joke and AMD has features like Radeon Chill that really significantly lowers power consumption beyond anything NVIDIA can offer while not really affecting how game plays. With summer closing in, I'm gonna love this feature and I think it's such a clever method and people don't appreciate it enough. And RT performance is now so close it's an irrelevant discussion at this point if you ask me. Only outlier games where NVIDIA is favored for some reason, beyond that, they are pretty similar.

Radeon cards really made a huge comeback with RDNA4 worthy of waiting for like 2 more weeks. I've skipped RX 5000, 6000 and 7000 series because I was on NVIDIA cards for that period, but I've now returned to AMD after many years and the experience has been fantastic so far. I especially appreciate game agnostic features like Radeon Chill and AFMF that just work in all games and are really powerful. Drivers are just as mature as I remember them back in HD7950 era. So, either they "just" fixed them for RX 9000 series or they weren't as bad as people were talking this entire time.

Either way, AMD is a serious competition now, I advise people to wait for AMD's response. Whatever it turns out to be, it's better to make decision then instead of rushing for NVIDIA now and regretting it later.

RejZoRNVIDIA being an absolute software shitshow for months now, the fact that NVIDIA App is still an absolute joke and AMD has features like Radeon Chill that really significantly lowers power consumption beyond anything NVIDIA can offer while not really affecting how game plays. With summer closing in, I'm gonna love this feature and I think it's such a clever method and people don't appreciate it enough.

I have never really thought NVIDIA was a better experience software wise. Control panel was ass, the Geforce Experience was tolerable and the new one is also pretty ass. Honestly, AMD has always looked like the better option in terms of software since RX 6000 dropped.

RejZoRAnd RT performance is now so close it's an irrelevant discussion at this point if you ask me. Only outlier games where NVIDIA is favored for some reason, beyond that, they are pretty similar.

AMD is still noticeably worse but at this point it isn't so bad that it could dissuade you from considering their GPU's (unless you care about RT that much, which honestly, fair enough then, but still, that's def not the majority of people). I still remember someone tried to argue that the 9070XT was worse than the entirety of Ampere because it lost to the 3090Ti in a few games in RT by like, 0.2 to 0.5 FPS. I have no idea why that's the hill they tried to die on, they thankfully realized that was a stupid hill and stopped arguing.

RejZoRRadeon cards really made a huge comeback with RDNA4 worthy of waiting for like 2 more weeks. I've skipped RX 5000, 6000 and 7000 series because I was on NVIDIA cards for that period, but I've now returned to AMD after many years and the experience has been fantastic so far. I especially appreciate game agnostic features like Radeon Chill and AFMF that just work in all games and are really powerful. Drivers are just as mature as I remember them back in HD7950 era. So, either they "just" fixed them for RX 9000 series or they weren't as bad as people were talking this entire time.

RX 5000 was the generation I was told that had the most amount of problems driver wise, RX 6000 was a little bad but overall I didn't hear many problems (atleast not anything near as bad as RX 5000). By 7000, they had stream rolled most of the issues and a lot of the issues people blamed AMD for seemingly weren't actually caused by them most of the time, atleast in terms of software.

I didnt own a AMD card at this point in time though so I cant speak for a matter of fact though, just what I've heard from the grapevine. & personal testimony from other pals of mine who bought AMD rather than NVIDIA.

RejZoREither way, AMD is a serious competition now, I advise people to wait for AMD's response. Whatever it turns out to be, it's better to make decision then instead of rushing for NVIDIA now and regretting it later.

"serious competition" in gaming, not really in other places where GPU's are key. They need to set up their professional end of the GPU's, as gaming is only one part of the puzzle. UDNA will be interesting.

RejZoRNVIDIA being an absolute software shitshow for months now, the fact that NVIDIA App is still an absolute joke and AMD has features like Radeon Chill that really significantly lowers power consumption beyond anything NVIDIA can offer while not really affecting how game plays. With summer closing in, I'm gonna love this feature and I think it's such a clever method and people don't appreciate it enough. And RT performance is now so close it's an irrelevant discussion at this point if you ask me. Only outlier games where NVIDIA is favored for some reason, beyond that, they are pretty similar.

Radeon cards really made a huge comeback with RDNA4 worthy of waiting for like 2 more weeks. I've skipped RX 5000, 6000 and 7000 series because I was on NVIDIA cards for that period, but I've now returned to AMD after many years and the experience has been fantastic so far. I especially appreciate game agnostic features like Radeon Chill and AFMF that just work in all games and are really powerful. Drivers are just as mature as I remember them back in HD7950 era. So, either they "just" fixed them for RX 9000 series or they weren't as bad as people were talking this entire time.

Either way, AMD is a serious competition now, I advise people to wait for AMD's response. Whatever it turns out to be, it's better to make decision then instead of rushing for NVIDIA now and regretting it later.

Agreed about Nvidia's situation that could be a combination of a hardware bug and drivers. Agreed about AMD features that aren't mentioned because, well, we can't make Nvidia look lacking in features. 9070s where a good start, let's see if AMD can win the sub $400 market also. Hopefully they will not put the 9060s close to the 7700 in pricing, but they will lower the price of the 8GB 7600, stop producing the 7600XT(totally useless) and put the 9060 and 9060XT to cover the market segment between $270 and $350.

So, this is for media centers?

Seems a bit overkill. Besides, pretty much all CPU´s with integrated graphics are more than enough these days.

Chaitanyae-Waste with expiry date being sold at absurdly high prices for what its worth.

forman313So, this is for media centers?

No, this is a budget gaming model.

It would seem there are those who just can't see the forest for the trees. Kinda sad.

Yeah, this is miles above integrated GPUs. Or at least a lot of dollars above integrated GPUs - street price might be close to whole PlayStation 5, and performance about there also...

lexluthermiesterIt would seem there are those who just can't see the forest for the trees. Kinda sad.

The problem is it's naming and it's price. If the name was RTX 5050 with a price tag of $199-$229, I think most people would just ignore it. With a 5060 name and a $300 price tag, it signals stagnation. Nvidia could make these cards 192bit with 12GB of VRAM and have very happy customers. They chose to remain at 128bit and 8GB VRAM and get this negative reaction that is in my opinion understandable. I think they are spoiled by the profit margins they enjoy with their AI hardware and that makes it difficult for them to make more expensive 192bit boards and sell for $300 or less. If the problem is the cost of the PCB, I wonder if they even bothered to try 96bit data bus and 12BG VRAM. Would that narrowed data bus be a big bottleneck for the card's performance, considering it is using GDDR7? Or would it make it more future proof? Nvidia does have a habit the last 20 years to be making GPUs faster than the competition, but with VRAM just as much as to win current benchmarks, fell on their faces on tomorrow's benchmarks. At least for the low-mid range models, with some exceptions. And one exception was the 12GB RTX 3060. Compared to that 3060, every 8BG 4060 and 5060 look like a big step back, at least in VRAM capacity. People having bought that 3060 in the past, today might feel better than those having bought any of the latter 8GB models from Nvidia.

john_The problem is it's naming

Nope, that is just fine as is.

john_and it's price.

All prices are out of whack at the moment, so also not an issue.

lexluthermiesterNope, that is just fine as is.

All prices are out of whack at the moment, so also not an issue.

It is about name and pricing. It is about 3060 having 12GB of VRAM and even 3060 Ti being a 256bit card. Yes, faster memory or other tricks like AMD's cache, can offer the option to the manufacturer to lower the bus and keep the bandwidth high, but lowering also the VRAM ,while keeping the price high, isn't going to be greeted with enthusiasm. Intel offered it's latest cards with 12GB and 10GB of VRAM at a much lower price, so it isn't that it's not doable. And not all prices are out or whack. The 12GB VRAM on the RTX 5070 seems to be a good reason for that card's price to not going up. Who knows, maybe Nvidia put only 8GB on these cards to force buyers to avoid them, so their prices remain close to MSRP.

PS I should have added an /s in the end.

john_It is about name and pricing. It is about 3060 having 12GB of VRAM and even 3060 Ti being a 256bit card. Yes, faster memory or other tricks like AMD's cache, can offer the option to the manufacturer to lower the bus and keep the bandwidth high, but lowering also the VRAM ,while keeping the price high, isn't going to be greeted with enthusiasm. Intel offered it's latest cards with 12GB and 10GB of VRAM at a much lower price, so it isn't that it's not doable. And not all prices are out or whack. The 12GB VRAM on the RTX 5070 seems to be a good reason for that card's price to not going up. Who knows, maybe Nvidia put only 8GB on these cards to force buyers to avoid them, so their prices remain close to MSRP.

should be 5050ti

At this point, who actually cares for NV launching yet another overpriced, underperforming and unobtainable card anymore?

Will this card even beat the 4060 Ti? The 5060 Ti was only 10% faster than the 4060 Ti. How much slower will this one be...

Just saw data is already up.

NO! my god why is Nvidia so damn greedy

Wouldn't be shocked if it's slower than a 2020 era 3070 while having a real-world price of $350-380.

tussinmanWouldn't be shocked if it's slower than a 2020 era 3070 while having a real-world price of $350-380.

I'm surprised Nvidia is acting like this even after B580 launch.

RaceT3chI'm surprised Nvidia is acting like this even after B580 launch.

Why do you think Intel never launched the higher up chip? Do you think somebody paid them not to? Nah, surely not!

"Only" 8GB VRAM (but don't worry - we've got magic neural network optimization!)

At least the price is "competitive" for this "high-fidelity" experience... whatever that actually means.

### **"How to Be a GPU Monopoly: A Satirical Guide by NVIDIA (and Friends)"**

**Step 1: Create Artificial Scarcity**
- Release a "limited stock" of GPUs at launch, ensuring gamers and miners fight in Thunderdome for the privilege of paying 2x MSRP.
- Blame "supply chain issues" while conveniently forgetting to mention you’re diverting chips to AI clients who pay triple.

**Step 2: Redefine 'Value'**
- Introduce a **$1600 "Mainstream" GPU** (because "enthusiasts" are just wallets with feelings).
- Make sure the previous gen’s mid-range card (now rebranded as "low-end") costs more than it did at launch.

**Step 3: Segment the Market Like a Tyrant**
- **Cut down memory bandwidth** on purpose so the cheaper cards choke at higher resolutions.
- **Lock basic features** (like decent ray tracing) behind the most expensive SKUs—because suffering builds character.

**Step 4: Gaslight Your Customers**
- "You don’t *need* more than 8GB VRAM!" (Games immediately demand 12GB.)
- "Our proprietary tech (DLSS) fixes the performance issues we created!" (Bonus: Make it incompatible with competitors' hardware.)

**Step 5: Embrace the 'Apple Tax' (But for Gamers)**
- Sell a **$600 GPU** with specs from 3 years ago, but slap "Super" or "Ti" on it.
- When questioned, whisper: *"But the drivers tho…"*

**Step 6: Crush the Competition (Politely)**
- If AMD undercuts you, **release a paper-launched "counter" card** that’s 5% faster but 30% more expensive.
- If Intel dares enter the market, **flood Reddit with "driver horror stories"** until everyone forgets they exist.

**Step 7: The Final Boss Move—Software Lock-In**
- Make sure your ecosystem (DLSS, Reflex, RTX Voice) is **just good enough** that leaving feels like downgrading to a potato.
- Watch as gamers angrily defend your monopoly for you—*"But what about my frames?!"*

### **Epilogue: The Gamer’s Dilemma**
- **Option A:** Pay the troll toll (sell a kidney for a "mid-range" GPU).
- **Option B:** Switch to AMD (enjoy 90% of the performance for 70% of the price, but miss DLSS).
- **Option C:** Abandon PC gaming, take up knitting, and wait for the market to collapse.

*"But hey, at least we’re not as bad as the printer ink industry!"*
— **NVIDIA, probably**

*(This satire inspired by real-world frustration. RIP fair pricing, 2004-2016.)*

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oddrobertLet me guess...
✓ 4x lower FPS
✓ 90% less power efficient
✓ "Only" 8GB VRAM (but don't worry - we've got magic neural network optimization!)

At least the price is "competitive" for this "high-fidelity" experience... whatever that actually means.

The Marketing Spin:
• Our fake pixels are "better" than the competition
• Pay more → Get less
• Don't like it? Tough.

Translation:
Price: Premium
⚡ Performance: Compromised
️ Value: Questionable

DeepSeek formatted


Title: "The GPU Pump Room: Always Be Mining"
(Opening shot: A dimly lit, smoke-filled basement—rows of glowing PCs, neon RGB lights pulsing like a nightclub. A giant screen displays skyrocketing GPU prices. Jake "The Render" Buchanan stands in the center, wearing a headset, surrounded by a sweaty, wild-eyed crew of ex-gamers-turned-crypto-hustlers. The vibe is pure Boiler Room meets Wolf of Wall Street.)

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[/HR]

[B]SCENE: THE GPU PUMP ROOM[/B]

(The camera whips around as Jake paces like a caged tiger, hyping up his crew. On the walls: posters of "HODL", "TO THE MOON", and a giant whiteboard with scribbled targets like "MSRP? LOL" and "FOMO = $$$".)
Jake (barking into the headset):
"WAKE UP, SLEEPERS! You think this is a game?! You think you’re here to play?! NO! You’re here to SELL THE DREAM!"
(The crew erupts—some pounding desks, others chugging energy drinks. A rookie, Timmy, looks nervous. Jake zeroes in on him.)
Jake (grabbing Timmy by the collar):
"You see that 4090 over there? That’s not a graphics card, kid. That’s a ticket out of your mom’s basement! Now pick up the phone and MAKE ME MONEY!"
(Timmy hesitates. The room goes silent. Jake smirks, then SLAMS a GPU on the desk.)
Jake (low, dangerous):
"Sell. Me. This. Chip."
Timmy (stammering):
"Uh… it’s got… ray tracing?"
(Jake LAUGHS, then turns to the crew.)
Jake (mocking):
"RAY TRACING?! You think some gamer gives a damn about light reflections?! NO! You sell them POWER! You sell them STATUS! You sell them the FEAR OF MISSING OUT!"
(He grabs the phone, dials a number, and slips into full Belfort-mode.)
Jake (smooth, persuasive):
"Hey, big guy—yeah, it’s Jake from Titan GPUs. Listen, I got three 4090s left. Three. And my guy at TSMC just told me the next shipment’s delayed till Q3. Now, I could hold one for you… but I got five other guys blowing up my DMs. So what’s it gonna be?"
(Pause. The crew leans in. Jake grins, then HITS THE MUTE BUTTON and screams at the room:)
Jake (to the crew):
"SEE THAT?! THAT’S HOW YOU CLOSE! HE’S BUYING TWO!"
(The room EXPLODES—high-fives, howls, someone fires a confetti cannon. The whiteboard updates: "SALES TARGET: CRUSHED.")

---

[/HR]

[B]SCENE: THE CRASH[/B]

(Later. The mood is tense. The crypto market just tanked. GPU prices are in freefall. The crew is frantically calling buyers, but now the script has flipped.)
Crew Member #1 (panicked):
*"Dude, my guy just canceled his order! Says he can wait for the 5000-series!"*
Crew Member #2 (yelling into phone):
"NO, MAN, IT’S STILL A GOOD INVESTMENT—HELLO? HELLO?!"
(Jake stares at the crashing ticker, then slowly grabs a baseball bat. The room goes silent. He walks over to a stack of unsold GPUs… and SWINGS.)
(SMASH. Plastic shatters. Silicon flies. The crew watches in horror as Jake laughs like a madman.)
Jake (breathing heavy):
"You wanna know the real secret? There is no next big thing. There’s just the next greater fool."
(He drops the bat. Walks out. The crew looks at each other—then scrambles for the door.)

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[/HR]

[B]FINAL SHOT: THE AFTERMATH[/B]

(The warehouse is empty. Broken GPUs litter the floor. A single monitor flickers—a YouTube notification pops up: "NEW GPU JUST LEAKED! BUY NOW BEFORE IT’S GONE!")
(Cut to black. Distant sound of a mining rig powering down.)
Narrator (Belfort-style, fading out):
"And that, my friends… is how you turn FOMO into FO—no."

---

[/HR]
POST-CREDIT SCENE:
(A dimly lit room. A new crew gathers around a whiteboard. The leader points at a chart of AI stocks.)
New Leader (smirking):
"Alright, listen up. GPUs are dead. The new play? AI TRAINING TOKENS. Now, who here wants to get rich?"
(The crew leans in, hungry. Fade to black.)

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How’s that? Pure Boiler Room chaos, Wolf of Wall Street energy, and a hype machine running on pure copium. Want me to add a Glengarry Glen Ross "Always Be Closing" parody? Or maybe a Margin Call-style midnight emergency meeting?

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